tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post1860168389637869071..comments2023-08-15T02:20:49.481-07:00Comments on Drush and Agadata - Medrash, Parsha, Torah and Shabbos: Taanis 29a: Simcha and SassonAvromihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-12473228946463390702008-07-29T19:47:00.000-07:002008-07-29T19:47:00.000-07:00Yismach Moshe Vayeira:נ"ל על פי דששון זה שמחה לפי ...Yismach Moshe Vayeira:<BR/><BR/><BR/>נ"ל על פי דששון זה שמחה לפי שעה כמו דאשכח מציאה, וכמו שפירשתי בפסוק (תהלים קי"ט [קיט קסב]) שש אנכי וגו', ועל כן דרשו (מגילה ט"ז ע"ב) וששון (אסתר ח טז), זו מילה. ושמחה היא שמחה אמיתית, לכך נאמר (ישעיה לה י) ששון ושמחה ישיגו, ר"ל שיהיה גם שמחה משום ונסו יגון ואנחה ולא יצמח ממנה שום תוגה, והבן.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-3133579252313874582008-07-29T19:43:00.000-07:002008-07-29T19:43:00.000-07:00I recently found this in Meshech Chochma Devarim 2...I recently found this in Meshech Chochma Devarim 23:17 <BR/><BR/>(יז) עמך ישב - בעיר עצמו (ספרי קכה). כן גריס הגר"א, ובהשגות פי"ד מאיסורי ביאה כפי הגירסא שהוא לפנינו. ונראה דדוקא שלא לישב בעיר המוקפת חומה קפיד קרא, דאם ישבו רוב נכרים בה בטלה קדושתה כמוש"כ תוספות כתובות מ"ה ע"ב (ד"ה על), וזה עמך שהוא טפל ואתה העיקר. וכפי הגירסא שלפנינו שאין מושיבין גר תושב בירושלים נראה לפרש נוסח התפילה שמחה לארצך וששון לעירך, כי ששון נאמר על מי ששמח בעצמו, ושמחה נאמר על מי שנכללו בשמחתו אחרים ג"כ, וזה מבקש כי יתן פחדו וישתחוו לפניך כל הברואים אז יוכלו לגור בארץ ישראל, לא בירושלים, ע"ז נאמר ששון לעירך היינו לישראל עצמן, שאחרים אינם שמחים בשמחתם ואנחנו בנ"י שמחים בעיר אלדינו. אמןAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-58692446778200062942007-02-11T20:13:00.000-08:002007-02-11T20:13:00.000-08:00Although we see that Malbim writes that simcha is ...Although we see that Malbim writes that simcha is internal and is external, it is worth noting that in Shacharis on Shabbos, we say semiechim bitzaisam vesasim bevoamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-22705420914086441382007-02-11T14:52:00.000-08:002007-02-11T14:52:00.000-08:00I didn't check yet but the Gaon in Mishlei might s...I didn't check yet but the Gaon in Mishlei might say a different distinction between simcha and sasson. One is when the happiness is what was expected and the other is when the happiness is more that what was anticipated.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-24868006437137938132007-02-11T14:50:00.000-08:002007-02-11T14:50:00.000-08:00Radak in sefer hasheroshim states that simcha is a...Radak in sefer hasheroshim states that simcha is a form of growing as the letter sin can be switched with the letter tzadi (well known), and the shoresh would be tzomeach - growing. This would be similar to the Gaon as well that simcha is the process which leads to sasson.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-52070357252451436362007-02-08T14:33:00.000-08:002007-02-08T14:33:00.000-08:00I believe my apporach can be found in Malbim, but ...I believe my apporach can be found in Malbim, but Simchas Bais Hashoeva and milah are two proofs that sasson is higher level. Keep the comments coming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-59047035563350298602007-02-07T20:50:00.000-08:002007-02-07T20:50:00.000-08:00i guess the last one was the second to last: mahar...i guess the last one was the second to last: maharal B'er Hagolah revi'i states דע כי השמחה הוא מצב הנפש כי השמחה הוא כאשר האדם הוא בשלימותו ואין שלימות רק אל הנפש - seems to me like bnei yissoschar and not like gaon but also seems to be not like your assumption. harbei derochim.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-28765720869278260612007-02-07T20:40:00.000-08:002007-02-07T20:40:00.000-08:00Last one for now: I think the bnei yisoschar expla...Last one for now: I think the bnei yisoschar explains exactly the opposite of gaon and sasson is anticipation and simcha is after it is received. Check tishrei if you have it.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-75847512817683005762007-02-07T20:35:00.000-08:002007-02-07T20:35:00.000-08:00It is said in the name of the Gaon that simcha is ...It is said in the name of the Gaon that simcha is the beginning of the happiness and sasson is the completion. most times you will find simcha before sasson. On simchas torah, we recite sissu vsimchu b'simchas torah because we want to show that torah doesnt end and even after we 'finish,' we start immediately again.<BR/><BR/>I once said (perhaps i saw it someplace) that this can explain why we say asher bora sasson v'simcha because a marriage is also a simchas hatorah based on Rabbeinu Gershom in Bava Basra (158 I think) that ben azai couldnt be called Reb because he was a bochur and if memory serves correct (heard from Rabbi Schmaelczer a"h) he should say v'lo haya yochol lisbor sevara k'reb akiva. he didnt have the menuchas hanefesh that comes with marriage like reb akiva. It emerges that a marriage is a simchas hatorah.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7119360056301980654.post-65061670927306628992007-02-07T20:15:00.000-08:002007-02-07T20:15:00.000-08:00"It is said that although one must diminish his le..."It is said that although one must diminish his level of joy in the month of Av, one must still remain in some state of joy."<BR/><BR/>I know it's drush but take a look at Tosfos in Megillah who states that one should not be in a state of joy at all.Avromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.com